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Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.04 00:56:14 -
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Nauplius wrote:Synthetic Cultist wrote:
- It does not state the Orientation of the Triangle. Is it to Point To the Altar, or Away from the Altar ?
- It does not state the Type of Triangle. Is it Equilateral ?
- It does not explicitly state the Size of the Triangle. How large is a Demon ? Is it Larger than a Person ? How much Larger ?
- It does not state how the Text should be Arranged along the Sides of the Triangle. Is the Text to be Above the Triangle, such that the Triangle underlines it ?
- It does not state the Orientation of the Text along the Circumference of the Circle. Should the Text be Above the Circle, or underneath it ?
- What kind of Robe ? A Knee length Robe ? An Ankle length Robe ? does the Robe have a Hood ?
- It does not state the Orientation of the Drawings of the Ametat and Avetat. Which Direction should they be Pointing ?
- It does not state the appropriate Volume for the Goblet. What size should it Be ?
This lack of Detail, means that Reproducibility of this Activity is lacking. It is Not Properly Documented. Therefore, Unscientific. Additionally: Demons, being Creatures of God, and thus, given a Place and Purpose by God, would have their Own Schedules of Appointed Work. Interrupting them, by Summoning them, and Preventing them from carrying out their Appointed Duties, is therefore to Interfere with their God-Appointed Purpose, which is Possibly Blasphemous. Therefore: I Do Not Recommend Attempting To Repeat This Ritual, due to the Risk of Accidental Blasphemy through Improper Practice. Thank you for your commentary on this demon summoning rite. My overall reply to your objections is this GÇö have you considered the possibility that the unspecified details are in fact not essential to the efficacy of the rite? That said, my Demon Summoning Temple is performing the rite as follows:
- The Triangle into which the demon is summoned points away from the Altar of God.
- The Triangle is equilateral.
- In determining the size of the Triangle, one must consult grimoires and other ritual texts wherein the physical qualities of the various demons are provided.
- The Text (Garrulor/Frisceas/Sefrim) should be drawn outside the Triangle.
- The Text (ß+ü -ä++ß+ª +¦ß+¦+++¦-ä++-é +++¦-î-é) should be drawn outside the circumference of the Circle.
- The Robe is floor-length and hooded.
- The Ametat and Avetat are drawn upright.
- The goblet should be sized appropriate to the demon being summoned.
Regarding the use of demons: demons exist, like everything else, to glorify God. It is no more sacrilege to summon a demon and direct it to an activity that glorifies God, such as destroying Minmatar, than it is to mine an asteroid and use the resulting Veldspar to build a Tormentor and employ it against the Minmatar militia. Finally, many commenters on this thread have complained that I and my demon summoning rite are boring. This objection is stupid. One does not design a demon summoning rite to be exciting; one designs a demon summoning rite that summons demons.
Instructions unclear. Goon sacrifice stuck in ceiling fan.
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Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.04 01:08:26 -
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Just sayin', ritual needs work. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.04 01:16:45 -
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You're not particularly good at grasping.... anything really, are you little blooder? |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.04 12:09:41 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:The Golden Serpent wrote:This is so stupid! Like really really stupid! You are definately going to end up messing up your life and God will punish you!
I think there are a lot of freaks in Amarr. Alot of Blooders in high positions. I see them everywhere! Why is Nauplius allowed in the Crusade when he is doing crazy stuff like this! I ask you! It's because evil people are wheedling their way into the Court!
There needs to be an inquisition, now why can't the elders see it?! The Theology Council has to be notified of any kind of weird behavior! The reason why people like Nauplius are allowed in the 24th is because of a loophole in CONCORD regulations. That he is allowed to join is a disgrace. That very few people in the 24th seem to be willing to do anything about it is even more disturbing. I once flew proudly with the 24th, and we used to police our own. I will not commit again to service until enemies of the Empire are removed and this stain upon the honor of the 24th is cleansed.
However much I like to make jokes at little kin's expense when it comes to their erstwhile allies, in reality there's very little you can do about it without a lot of even worse consequences. Since the performance and regulation adherence review systems are entirely automated, it means anything we do to remove the undesirables counts as significant black marks on our record and will eventually make us counted as even worse enemies than the opposition. In addition, it will often lead to even greater strife within the FacWar members and could potentially ruin any chance of progress.
Ironically, you being outside the system means you are in a far better position to "police" the militias through simple wardecs or acts of benevolent piracy. If taking personal action is unattractive, proxies can be hired to harass and hinder these... "stains... from enjoying their positions.
In fact, I'd go so far as to say the opposing forces can be of use there. Find yourself some undesirables in need of violent expulsion from your local? There should be a rather significant amount of trigger happy orange stars in the surrounding systems that would love to do the job for you. Getting an honorable system in place to avoid this being used as traps or betrayals from either side would of course be a challenge, but possible.
Although I suspect in the end, no matter how much we wail and gnash our teeth about horrid vermin draping themselves in blue stars, it'll remain a matter of vocal disapproval and little to no action. After all, they're oh so useful for taking and defending the systems we ourselves don't have the numbers for and for that purpose it would appear neither PIE nor U'K or any other so called "honorable" loyalist entities have even the slightest form of standards, honor or principles.
What do you know? We're all just honorless killers, no matter how much we like to pretend otherwise. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.06 16:06:57 -
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I'd entertain the notion of a cease-fire for the duration, if such things hadn't been broken by 24th members in the past. Besides, I'm pretty sure once the tower was down, the gathered 24th members would immediately seek our deaths before the slaves could be recovered and freed. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.06 16:33:42 -
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Could you guarantee that no 24th would break such a cease-fire? I have lossmails from other such attempts. |
Mizhara Del'thul
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Posted - 2015.08.06 17:21:55 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Could you guarantee that no 24th would break such a cease-fire? I have lossmails from other such attempts. You are aware that the 24th isn't under centralised capsuleer control, right?
That was indeed the point. I can't guarantee any sort of behaviour outside of U'K and Aldrith Shutaq can't guarantee any behaviour outside PIE. I have my doubts we'd be the only ones on field.
There are dead crewmen's names on a list in my office that I can attribute directly to broken cease-fires. I'm looking for a reason to trust the 24th in the face of a cause like this, but they are conspicuous in their absence. |
Mizhara Del'thul
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Posted - 2015.08.06 17:47:55 -
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A polite reminder about what I said in the second sentence of the post? |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.06 18:06:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Oh, come on, Mizhara, take a chance! Think how upset it'd make Nauplius to have his precious death-temple destroyed by a group of Amarr and Minmatar putting aside their differences and working together. Isn't that worth the risk?
I am willing to risk myself and such crew that would volunteer knowing it'd likely be a death sentence given previous experiences with such cease-fires. I am not particularly interested in leading my brethren into a trap, though. Particularly when the only tangible thing I can show them are lossmails from previous attempts.
Especially given how publicly the location, time and pretty much guaranteed presence of sufficient ships to take down a Medium Dark Blood tower. I might entertain the notion that PIE is trustworthy, but I also know they won't lift a finger when Pyre brings a fleet to crash the party.
I can't in good conscience risk the crews and ships of my comrades in arms in such a situation, when it will with almost certainly lead to their deaths. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.06 22:51:01 -
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It's allright, little red. It is much as expected at this point and if you tried to get a PIE member, not to even mention leadership, to admit that they prefer to keep their hostility with the more dubious elements of their 24th to be on a vocal level only, over possibly having to act on it over their less dubious enemies their heads would explode.
They can't risk pissing off Pyre because that would assuredly lose them the war zone entirely and the gains from any interaction with us that doesn't involve orbiting buttons or opening fire isn't sufficiently tempting.
Especially when they've already gotten to say cooperation was an option but so very unfortunately because of reasons entirely out of their control, surely, it can not be. If nothing else, they know how to spin. |
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Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.07 09:34:02 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:
Respectfully, and with me speaking as someone with absolutely no authority over anything much, and hopefully not talking out of turn: we've been known to work with the TLF in temporary alliances. I don't think we make any kind of practice of turning on temporary allies.
I have lossmails that would indicate otherwise, along with comms logs. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.07 11:42:40 -
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Jev North wrote:You've roused my curiosity. If any of that is recent or about more than IGS point-scoring, please forward them to me or any other PY-RE diplomat.
You'll forgive me if I want as little as possible to do with Sansha, ex-Sansha and a staggering amount of pirates pretending to be mercenaries, other than at projectile weapon engagement ranges or as a host at Accorded Neutral Ground at Deck23. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.07 12:49:21 -
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Feel free to visit Deck23 should you wish to engage in discourse of any sort. Even you are not deemed unwelcome on Accorded Neutral Ground. Any official diplomatic contact with Pyre is not an option, though. I am sure you can understand that while PIE might tolerate it as an entity, we can not. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.07 13:13:17 -
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Minmatar only, unless vouched for and escorted by a Minmatar guest in good standing. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.07 13:34:30 -
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Val has been a good guest adhering to the Accords. If she vouches for you and escorts you, it would be acceptable. But be aware, your behaviour would be her responsibility, and consequences for breaking the accords would be hers to bear. If you care for her, honor that. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.07 14:34:56 -
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There are reasons why we no longer deal with Pyre. Deals aren't honored. |
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